That's the issue, Jordan. You don't know what he does. A Community Manager needs to be active in the community they manage. If they aren't active, they aren't managing. You wouldn't expect to get a job somewhere, never show up, and not get fired. If you do not actively do the task/duty that is asked of you, why do you want to hold the responsibility for it? The idea of a Community Manager takes away from the power of the admins, puts far too much power into the hands of one individual in terms of community decisions, and tends to harm the idea of a "fair" community. The "people" can't have a say when one person has the final rule.

If you actually KNEW what Gnome did, this would be a different story, but the fact that you can't even tell what a Community Manager does should say a lot. How can you actually defend a title that you don't understand? Coming from someone who actually runs a server, a "manager" for the whole community is a TERRIBLE idea that, to be quite honest, you just do not seem to comprehend.

Jordan wrote

I don't understand why you guys are letting this bother you? It's a fucking rank, get over it. How does this affect your experience on the server? Whether Gnome comes on the server once or 100 times a month, it really doesn't change anything.. And frankly, I feel bad for Gnome. You guys are absolutely trashing him because of his activity on the server. I mean, I personally don't know what he does, but I'd assume he does most of his work off the server.

The only off-server work that gets handled happens on-site (where I can't say I've seen him terribly active either) or back-end (development work; my forte). Any "community" leader-based role is meant to be seen by the public, to help the public, to hear the public, and to coordinate the public. You know, like helping players with issues they have or banning players that misbehave. (That sure does sound an AWFUL lot like an admin though.)

A community manager position doesn't need to be filled. Instead, fill it with more admin slots. Get more equal, active users on the server who can help guide the community and hear the community as a whole.

I understand what you're saying, I really do. And I can see how this may upset you. But your reference to a "job", was absolutely bullshit. If he was getting paid for this, we both know he would be on the server 24/7. But it's all volunteer work at the end of the day.

On another note, lets face it, you guys are dick riding Naz. No one said one word about this until Naz brought it up. And why did no one bring it up? Because nobody actually fucking cares. I guarantee if someone like Matthew wrote the exact same fucking novel Naz wrote, you guys wouldn't have even gotten through a quarter of it without skipping through it and not saying one word.

You guys need to chill, and accept that someone has a different opinion from the millionaire. I grew up with my dad telling me the following quote everyday before school, "Be a leader, not a follower". And I have lived up to it, and will not stop now.

Agree or disagree with me, my opinion remains.

There is no riding dick here, my guy. It has been talked about, but it has never been posted. This is the first of people actually DOING something and not just SAYING something. Sorry that your opinion differs from the rest of the community, but it doesn't mean people are dick riding for money; let's be honest, Nazz doesn't share a single cent of shit anyway. Dick riding him does not gain anyone a single thing.

We all just happen to have the same opinion about a topic that deeply involves a community that we are both heavily involved in. I'm also sorry that you are not involved in the community enough to see it. If anyone else who felt the same way had started this thread, I promise people would've posted in it as well. And as soon as Nazz would have replied, you would immediately call everyone a dick-rider for that too.

Just because your opinion and our opinion may differ, and just because you don't care enough about the community to change it, doesn't mean the rest of us are wrong for trying to.

I never said you were wrong, you're just too ignorant to understand that people have a different opinion from you. You could've easily just left my opinion alone without replying to it. But hey! If naz agrees everyone agrees right??

Skittle wrote
12 Sheckles A Meme wrote
MrCrocker wrote

Who would take his role

The role would be demolished I think is what nazz is saying.
Personally it is not a bad idea, it would keep the team on equal leveling ground to work together and not all be dickheads to one another. We do like to cause drama and fight with one another.

I've been here two years and I still don't see the point of a community manager, we struggle with having more than one server, putting the responsibility to maintain 900 people as well as a diverse playerbase is not the job for one man/woman. It requires a team of people - the admin team to watch over the 900 sum players we have. If anything it would lighten the load on gnome to relax and have other people help him rather than him being pinned to handle things that involve/need him. It would also help him learn a little bit on how to correctly handle situations, as seen with the mishap ban instead of removal of cop, but we do all make mistakes 🙂

We don't even need a head moderator role, there is razor and deadpool and earth and (I think myself?) To help keep the fires down and order between, Jamal gets the job done but we don't need such high structuring roles for a very simplistic team. We specialize in one server, when the time comes and we divide and manage multiple servers to the integrity and severity as we do for csgorp we can have have a bigger branched admin team and roles

There's a head moderator role? Meaning that there's also moderators?

lol what

head admin not moderator

Jordan if you come on a post just to say that everyones opinion that goes with naz is them riding his dick then you my friend cant handle someone not agreeing with you. I don't know if your parents told you this or someone has but you have to take into mind the other side of the story. Right now you are not you are sticking with what you think is correct without reading everyones side. First read everyones comment then take into consideration what you think and mabye see rights wrongs lies and what not. Dont come on to the forums to just say everyone who opposes your opinion and everyone who agrees with naz is a dick rider. Yes I know I am 13 but if I know how to respond and actually take into consideration everyones opinion then you need to also. Just saying do not come on the forums to say the opposite opinion from everyone so you can call them dick riders. Want to do that go on pornhub.com and look up gay sex. Peace nigga

I came on the forum to call everyone dickriders? Ok, little boy, you clearly didn't read everything that went on. I stated my opinion, then bypass attacked me, most probably because he's dick riding the millionaire. I just wanted to state my opinion. This is a public forum. Did I take it too far by calling everyone dick riders? Yes. I was pretty much just spewing bullshit there and I apologize to anyone I may have offended. But most people do agree with him, because of who he is, and what he has. But if you're going to personally attack me because you have an issue with my opinion, then I think you, my "friend", can't handle someone not agreeing with you.
And FYI, I did read everyones replies before I wrote my opinion, so you probably shouldn't just be assuming stuff. If you actually read what you wrote, you would realize that you are actually being very hypocritical. And to end a statement with the words, "Pornhub", "Gay Sex" and "Peace Nigga", really shows that you're clearly dick riding Naz and don't have an opinion of your own. I don't understand how you expect me to take you seriously when you say immature, and irrelevant shit like that. You're a child, I get it. But if you're going to post an argument, keep it fucking professional, and mature.

Jordan wrote

[snip] Did I take it too far by calling everyone dick riders? Yes. I was pretty much just spewing bullshit there and I apologize to anyone I may have offended. But most people do agree with him, because of who he is, and what he has. [snip] if you're going to post an argument, keep it fucking professional, and mature.

My only issue with what you said is that you assumed that people are dick riding because of who he is. Some of us genuinely agree with his post and wanted to contribute to it. I "attacked" you because I felt "attacked" for voicing my opinion. Thank you for the apology for the harsh words; I apologize, myself, for the way I came at you.

Please do understand, though, that there are quite a few users that share this opinion; no one has had the balls to stand up and say it until now.

EDIT: On a separate note, you are completely correct here. This topic has nothing to do with dick riding and should be redirected back to the on-topic situation. Any unnecessary bullshit is not needed and the unprofessional personal "attacks" on users is completely ridiculous.

Fox and Jordan have you dick riding competition somewhere else. Everything you said has literally nothing to do with the current forum, which is talking about community management. I would tell you to make another post to talk about what you are speaking of, but I don't think it would be appreciated there either.

Fat Joey wrote

Fox and Jordan have you dick riding competition somewhere else. Everything you said has literally nothing to do with the current forum, which is talking about community management. I would tell you to make another post to talk about what you are speaking of, but I don't think it would be appreciated there either.

That's a bit hypocritical... Don't you think? Telling me that everything I said had nothing to do with the post, then put your two sense in when nobody asked for it, along with an irrelevant paragraph?

Jordan wrote

I never said you were wrong, you're just too ignorant to understand that people have a different opinion from you. You could've easily just left my opinion alone without replying to it. But hey! If naz agrees everyone agrees right??

I'm literally one of Naz's friends... I don't agree, I think it's bullshit, and I'm not "scared" to state my opinion either.

But YOUR opinion is just dickish, and saying people can't reply to your opinion is completely hypocritical as well.

And nobodies bashing Gnome, I'm not sure why you think that.

Skittle wrote
Jordan wrote

I never said you were wrong, you're just too ignorant to understand that people have a different opinion from you. You could've easily just left my opinion alone without replying to it. But hey! If naz agrees everyone agrees right??

I'm literally one of Naz's friends... I don't agree, I think it's bullshit, and I'm not "scared" to state my opinion either.

But YOUR opinion is just dickish, and saying people can't reply to your opinion is completely hypocritical as well.

And nobodies bashing Gnome, I'm not sure why you think that.

How does it taste

Jordan wrote
Fat Joey wrote

Fox and Jordan have you dick riding competition somewhere else. Everything you said has literally nothing to do with the current forum, which is talking about community management. I would tell you to make another post to talk about what you are speaking of, but I don't think it would be appreciated there either.

That's a bit hypocritical... Don't you think? Telling me that everything I said had nothing to do with the post, then put your two sense in when nobody asked for it, along with an irrelevant paragraph?

Well, #1 your argument with Fox had 0 to do with the topic community, so yes everything you said has nothing to do with the post. #2 I didn't put my two cents in, I put the two cents of 5 people in teamspeak who said that you are devaluing the topic by arguing with someone about something that has literally 0 to do with the topic, WHICH IS COMMUNITY MANAGEMENT. #3, PLEASE don't say two sense, its cents. The "irrelevant" paragraph was placed to try and help make the rest of the comments relevant to the topic, which is a very important one. It seems you are to dense to realize this though, since every person currently in my teamspeak channel (a grand total of 8 ) knows my intentions and are appreciative for trying to take your cancerous argument out to the trash bin. By doing this I caused another cancerous argument, which surprisingly (not really) you are involved with. Is this everyone vs Jordan or Jordan vs everyone? Because it seems that is is Jordan vs everyone. This community doesn't want cancerous fucks like yourself, personally I would rather have 3 reasonable person over 20 cancerous fucks. Unfortunately, your posts are making an entire server hate you because of what you are tearing down. I'm not trying to be mean in any way, but I am asking you to sit down and take an L for the betterment of the arguments that you are starting

Skittle wrote

The role "Community Manager" was supposed to be completely removed at one point in time, I believe, and they were going to change Gnomes role to Super-Admin, or something along that lines.

For whatever reason, they changed their mind.

gnome his just an admin like sheckles and myself he is not higher then that

i dont know why yall think this but this post IS NOT TO BASH GNOME, this post is about the community manager position,

Unlocked

Stay on topic, only warning

Let's hear some thoughtful voicing on this, not autism

Deadpool wrote
Skittle wrote

The role "Community Manager" was supposed to be completely removed at one point in time, I believe, and they were going to change Gnomes role to Super-Admin, or something along that lines.

For whatever reason, they changed their mind.

gnome his just an admin like sheckles and myself he is not higher then that

Sick double post, and I'm pretty sure he has more permissions than a basic admin.

Skittle wrote
Deadpool wrote
Skittle wrote

The role "Community Manager" was supposed to be completely removed at one point in time, I believe, and they were going to change Gnomes role to Super-Admin, or something along that lines.

For whatever reason, they changed their mind.

gnome his just an admin like sheckles and myself he is not higher then that

Sick double post, and I'm pretty sure he has more permissions than a basic admin.

In a nutshell he is a super admin

Now please return to being on topic

Skittle wrote
Deadpool wrote
Skittle wrote

The role "Community Manager" was supposed to be completely removed at one point in time, I believe, and they were going to change Gnomes role to Super-Admin, or something along that lines.

For whatever reason, they changed their mind.

gnome his just an admin like sheckles and myself he is not higher then that

Sick double post, and I'm pretty sure he has more permissions than a basic admin.

actually has only has a few and is a basic admin