Recently i have taken the time to talk to new a wide variety of players on play on the Moonshade role-play server. I brought to them the discussion of the role we have on the server called ” The community manager “. I asked them if they knew what it was, and in their eyes what someone who has this role should do and pursue on the server. I got a lot of different mixed answers and even a lot of surprising ones too. To start off i will give you my input and take on this. Ive been playing on Moonshade for just over a year now and have only found out that we had one like 8 months in tbh. After i knew who it was which his name is “Gnome” for the people who do not know this I started to wonder to myself if he is even worthy in a sense to be in this position.

       Some of the questions that I asked the people who i spoke with were

– Whats a community manager do?

– Why have a role that is too big to fill by someone who cant do it

       What i have got from the questions that i asked them were basically them telling me that well they never even see him on the server a lot of people font even know who he is and that we had a “community manager” in the first place, and why have a role that is meant have a person active on the server a lot and involved with the server and there when needed. As a player who is legit ALWAYS on the server i can defend the fact that this role is not being Pursued well at all. I have not seen him on in like 3 weeks and he rarely comes on at all. When he does its just for a short amount of time, and for what ive seen he is just doing his gambling thing. Some of you may be wondering why he was given this role in the first place if he cant even do it in a sense. I think this is the back story but am not sure anyways  that the community manager started when the community was young and small, and all the current admins at the time were too busy to stay on server. The community had someone to talk to if they had a problem. Now the community is quite larger, we have several active admins on daily, any problems can be quickly solved. If we were to maintain the role then it would require the use of several different people. That would completely negate the role. We don’t require a community manager anymore. The has become obsolete where we have outgrown it. Now of course getting rid of this rank does not mean getting rid of the person too. We  as the “community” just feel that this role is no longer needed and that it should not be held to just one person, but instead what we feel would be more beneficial is if this role goes away and taken, and instead have it  be done by the admin team as a whole, not by one player. Think of it as a “given” and admin is supposed to manage the community that is basically what it means so why don’t we leave this role for ALL admins. We as a community have thought about this for a while and have put great thought into this, and its just obvious that this role at this point is not even a role because its not being done by the person at all. Those who play on the server know that he does not come on ever and is not fit for this. A great example would be when a Cop killed a civilian that did not shoot him  which is “cop rdm”  The player who got killed by the cop and called admin. The community manager came on and well he did not know how to remove a person cop so instead he Banned this cop from the server for a full 1 week. All  because he did now know how to take away  a players cop. Now i personally like gnome and think he is a great guy and friend, but as the role  he has i dont  believe  it is suit for him or anyone for it is obsolete, and should be  managed by the  whole admin team rather then one person.

I agree because if someone is a Community manager, he/she has to be involved with the community and build upon that. With Gnome, well I haven't seen him in a while. And his position should be important to him. He should be comming on and become active on forums. Without doing that, then there's no point of having a community manager if he/she can't even do the job.

100% with nazz. Have not seen Gnome in a long time and I am on the server at least a hour a day. The "community manager" is a big position and should be given to all admins. And as Tyb said there is no point of having that title without someone to do that job.

i agree with Nazz, Gnome is ever rarely on and the last time i saw him he banned me because this kid said i threatened to dox him even though i asked what that was and laughed about it afterwards. I got banned for 24 hrs. Yes i know doxxing is taken very seriously but gnome didn't even consider this kid lying and banned me. I got no warning except from a player saying "Hey chill out Gnome doesnt like that" so i stopped. So what im trying to say is, the community manager isn't active in the community and should have the title taken away but not the admin status, they're still very useful.

i think this is for the better with the whole admin team taking over the role this can mean multiple view points on the same thing and thus leading to more fair and equal trials also with multiple people you will get the others persons motives that wouldn't have been expressed otherwise with just one person

I love gnome and all but I have never seen him on the server while I play and when I do see him I see his messages telling me to stop doing what I stopped doing like 10 minutes ago. It would be fair if all admins got community manager so they could take care of the community and it not just be on one person.

[font=trebuchet ms]Agreed[/font]

[font=trebuchet ms]Im with Nazz, honestly never knew what a community manager was till this post. I have around 95 hours on the server and I've only seen Gnome on 2-3 times max. I had no idea that he was a community manager and I usually just see him fly around with weird models on. One time he rained melons and that was fun I guess. But yea, I feel that assigning a role of community manager to one person is not a great idea. I would rather suggest that the role is either a) Removed entirely and give the responsibilties to admins or b) Assign this role to more than 2 players. Although I am a new player, Ive actually noticed aswell how popular the server has gotten recently. With a huge wave like this there should be some consideration to role changes/shifts in the administration. I like Gnome, and no hard feelings btw but I feel that his role as a community manager should be changed. This is why I agree with nazz. The server needs to prepare for this onslaught of new players which includes restructuring the administration. [/font]

I understand your point, but then again, I did see him on a couple days ago actually.

MrCrocker wrote

Who would take his role

like I said up there^^^ this role would no longer be a thing and become obsolete, and should be managed by the whole admin team rather then one person. Like for get about the role it would just be a common sense thing for the admins. to manage the community

The role "Community Manager" was supposed to be completely removed at one point in time, I believe, and they were going to change Gnomes role to Super-Admin, or something along that lines.

For whatever reason, they changed their mind.

MrCrocker wrote

Who would take his role

The role would be demolished I think is what nazz is saying.
Personally it is not a bad idea, it would keep the team on equal leveling ground to work together and not all be dickheads to one another. We do like to cause drama and fight with one another.

I've been here two years and I still don't see the point of a community manager, we struggle with having more than one server, putting the responsibility to maintain 900 people as well as a diverse playerbase is not the job for one man/woman. It requires a team of people - the admin team to watch over the 900 sum players we have. If anything it would lighten the load on gnome to relax and have other people help him rather than him being pinned to handle things that involve/need him. It would also help him learn a little bit on how to correctly handle situations, as seen with the mishap ban instead of removal of cop, but we do all make mistakes 🙂

We don't even need a head moderator role, there is razor and deadpool and earth and (I think myself?) To help keep the fires down and order between, Jamal gets the job done but we don't need such high structuring roles for a very simplistic team. We specialize in one server, when the time comes and we divide and manage multiple servers to the integrity and severity as we do for csgorp we can have have a bigger branched admin team and roles

12 Sheckles A Meme wrote
MrCrocker wrote

Who would take his role

The role would be demolished I think is what nazz is saying.
Personally it is not a bad idea, it would keep the team on equal leveling ground to work together and not all be dickheads to one another. We do like to cause drama and fight with one another.

I've been here two years and I still don't see the point of a community manager, we struggle with having more than one server, putting the responsibility to maintain 900 people as well as a diverse playerbase is not the job for one man/woman. It requires a team of people - the admin team to watch over the 900 sum players we have. If anything it would lighten the load on gnome to relax and have other people help him rather than him being pinned to handle things that involve/need him. It would also help him learn a little bit on how to correctly handle situations, as seen with the mishap ban instead of removal of cop, but we do all make mistakes 🙂

We don't even need a head moderator role, there is razor and deadpool and earth and (I think myself?) To help keep the fires down and order between, Jamal gets the job done but we don't need such high structuring roles for a very simplistic team. We specialize in one server, when the time comes and we divide and manage multiple servers to the integrity and severity as we do for csgorp we can have have a bigger branched admin team and roles

There's a head moderator role? Meaning that there's also moderators?

lol what

With as many great things as I have heard about the coveted "Gnome," in the few months that I have been a part of the Moonshade Gaming community, you would think that you would see him online more. However, I can honestly say that I have seen Gnome maybe one time on the server. That is not a good look for someone with the role "Community Manager."

But take it from someone who attempts to sometimes single-handedly handle a community himself, the title of "Community Manager" is not an easy one to fill. Not for the user who has to take on the roll, and not for the players that are affected by the aforementioned user. Do you really want one person making the final decision in any given matter? Shouldn't that be up to a forum of users/officers who can vote and make a community decision as a community?

The "Community Manager" role becomes increasingly difficult to justify when you look at how a community runs, and even more so when a community begins to mature. In infancy, it makes sense to allow a "leader" to make basic fundamental decisions; however, as the community grows, as does the power of the community. Eventually, the community must learn to run itself or it will run itself into the ground. Unfortunately, as it stands, I cannot say that I can recommend Gnome for the "Community Manager" position, and I can honestly say that I firmly believe that the "Community Manager" role as a whole should be abolished.

That's just my two cents though.

Here's an idea. Why don't we vote for a community manager or "representative" for each map change?
Or maybe like every 3 months. We can give this person demi-admin powers to help assist with managing the community and it won't just be a title sitting around anymore.

I've personally seen Gnome on a handful of times, and I can't help but suspect that there's an ulterior motive to this forum post, but I do agree with not having a rank as "community manager" be squandered by an individual who can't commit to playing on the server every day.

Prozac wrote

Here's an idea. Why don't we vote for a community manager or "representative" for each map change?
Or maybe like every 3 months. We can give this person demi-admin powers to help assist with managing the community and it won't just be a title sitting around anymore.

I've personally seen Gnome on a handful of times, and I can't help but suspect that there's an ulterior motive to this forum post, but I do agree with not having a rank as "community manager" be squandered by an individual who can't commit to playing on the server every day.

I'm not sure how to put this into words you can understand but...

This is a horrible idea. It'll just end up being the guy with the most money because people kiss that persons ass.

Skittle wrote
Prozac wrote

Here's an idea. Why don't we vote for a community manager or "representative" for each map change?
Or maybe like every 3 months. We can give this person demi-admin powers to help assist with managing the community and it won't just be a title sitting around anymore.

I've personally seen Gnome on a handful of times, and I can't help but suspect that there's an ulterior motive to this forum post, but I do agree with not having a rank as "community manager" be squandered by an individual who can't commit to playing on the server every day.

I'm not sure how to put this into words you can understand but...

This is a horrible idea. It'll just end up being the guy with the most money because people kiss that persons ass.

We could make it a forum thing to promote forum use.

I understand no one likes Gnome besides admins pretty much, i feel this should happen, Why would there be a Manager if the doesnt manage it, totally agree with this post.

Prozac wrote
Skittle wrote
Prozac wrote

Here's an idea. Why don't we vote for a community manager or "representative" for each map change?
Or maybe like every 3 months. We can give this person demi-admin powers to help assist with managing the community and it won't just be a title sitting around anymore.

I've personally seen Gnome on a handful of times, and I can't help but suspect that there's an ulterior motive to this forum post, but I do agree with not having a rank as "community manager" be squandered by an individual who can't commit to playing on the server every day.

I'm not sure how to put this into words you can understand but...

This is a horrible idea. It'll just end up being the guy with the most money because people kiss that persons ass.

We could make it a forum thing to promote forum use.

That wouldn't even be useful then, there are already forum mods that come on at different times of the day, and they also "Manage the community"

I don't understand why you guys are letting this bother you? It's a fucking rank, get over it. How does this affect your experience on the server? Whether Gnome comes on the server once or 100 times a month, it really doesn't change anything.. And frankly, I feel bad for Gnome. You guys are absolutely trashing him because of his activity on the server. I mean, I personally don't know what he does, but I'd assume he does most of his work off the server.